About centaur
UPDATE (23/09/2007):
Here's my two cents (or a whole lot more, if you will) on the issue of copied art and art theft in general. I have been fighting against this for a while and my original petition for new protective features and my original discussion can be found here: http://sketchfu.com/drawing/63230-copied-art-please-sign-your-name-
Now, afterwards, Gerbear started a petition also, with a much larger discussion, which can be found here: http://sketchfu.com/drawing/69044-petition-please-sign
My official and up to date stance on this is basically characterized in the following message:
"I think I was one of the first to start a movement regarding this, so I do feel quite strongly about it. I’ve got a petition on my profile if anyone wants to check out the first discussion that was up here. But seeing everyone get fired up again made me think about this problem differently and I’ve thus come up with some thoughts on solving this issue.
1) First and foremost, Fizzy's idea was probably the most practical thing I've seen in this discussion to date: "Maybe an idea is to add an add-on checkbox: when ticked the drawing cannot altered by anyone other the original author. That way people don't have to actively police, nor do they have to be afraid that their WIPs will be stolen, while still allowing things like community drawings and the like.."
2) Second of all, I also agree with the restricting "undo strokes" for "based-on" drawings. But that won't help if people touch up the drawing and paint over the signature.
3) Which finally brings me to a new idea, which is a spin on the "flagging" system. To save Matt and Andrew a lot of work (a LOT of work, mind you, with copied or defaced drawings), the flagging system should work in the following manner: if say, five, seven, ten users (this can be decided at a later time) flag a drawing as "stolen" or "inappropriate" (there should be at least two different flags), then that drawing gets deleted AUTOMATICALLY. And there are quite a few users here that are online frequently and unintentionally end up monitoring this sort of thing, if simply by surfing the site. Now if the artist whose drawing got deleted is upset with this, they can "appeal" to Matt and Andrew, who can judge the situation themselves. The drawing isn't GONE from the site, they just can't put it back up without Matt and/or Andrew's help. The purpose of this is to monitor stolen artwork in such a way that Matt and Andrew can stay out of the picture 75-90% of the time, as they are constantly swamped with messages and other administrative tasks. That way, they will only get involved if the person who has copied or stolen a drawing which then got "banned" will bring it to Matt and/or Andrew's attention, which (and correct me if I'm wrong) should not be happening too often. Mind you, these “flagging options” will, or should, appear only on “based-on” drawings, so no pranksters can get rid of original art by way of this system. And if a flagged drawing was cheered, when it gets deleted automatically, the cheers for the flagged and deleted drawing should be deducted. That way, we take away both incentive and consequence, and get rid of problems such as those that Sunsi was facing with the “page-views-and-cheers-hope-you-understand” nonsense.
That way, normal additions like “CWFUBR-RWFUBC” drawings will still be around, as will community drawings. But as soon as a substantial amount of people will flag a drawing, it will be gone and newcomers and other users won’t mistake copied drawings for originals. Problem solved.
Or so I hope.
If anyone has any suggestions, please feel free to state them. But I do feel strongly about these three points. I am more than confident that most of our problems would go away with such a system.
Lady C"
If you have any more suggestions or comments, you can contact me or Gerbear, or add them yourself to the discussion found at the above link. Thanks.
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As for the actual "profile." Well, what's there to say without writing a novel? I love art so, so much (even if I am a little new to computer graphics and my tablet). I love trying different styles and themes. I love my fellow artists here. I love Sketchfu. I'm friendly, so please don't hestitate to comment or give suggestions or whatnot. I appreciate your input on my art. Sketchfu friends call me most often Centaur, C, or Lady C, so please feel free to use any of those names.
Now...having already celebrated my one-month anniversary and my 100th drawing, I do feel that it's time to share a word of advice with my fellow sketchfu friends and visitors. I have lost many drawings to simple malfunctions, and while there is no way to control the fate of doomed drawings, there is something that you can do which can help you avoid disaster and a lot of unnecessary heated emotions and words:
1) SAVE MANY WIPS. I can't stress how important it is. If you don't want anyone to see your work in progress, then delete it immediately (and don't be disappointed if one lucky traveler ends up at the right place at the right time and catches a glimpse of your work). If you do this every fifteen to twenty minutes (you may have to adjust depending on how quickly you work; if you work really fast and make lots of changes, you should probably do it more frequently), this can save you a lot of grief, especially if you lose your drawing anyway, you won't have to do as much reconstruction.
2) MAKE SCREENSHOTS. Every keyboard I've ever laid eyes on has a button called "Print Scr". This is your saving grace. Hit it every time you are ready to publish, even if it's a WIP. Even if you do this and your drawing is still lost, at least it won't be all gone - you'll have something on your computer to refer to if you ever want to recreate it. Just don't forget to paste it in another program and save it before you hit print screen again, or even ctrl+C.
3) BE CAREFUL ON WEEKENDS. It's much like your mother always told you to not go into dark alleys at night; this sort of thing poses the same danger to your drawings. When there are a lot of people on this website, it works slower and the chances of you losing a drawing increase unporportionally. I personally prefer to wait until weekdays, when less people are logged on and make traffic on Sketchfu; there's more of a guarantee that you'll have a successful post.
I really hope these tips will help you in the future. I have lost about ten drawings already and am determined not to go through the frustration of having that happen once more. This is why as a self-proclaimed veteran, I'm sharing these hints with you. I hope they'll help you in the future as much as they have me.
Lady C
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Comments for centaur
Rogier
Where are U ? We miss U here on Sketchfu. Hope U are alright and hope U will come back. Ur friend Maritha =)
all sketchfu is missin ya !
hope ya okay...
There are some ways to curb this a little bit, for instance require people to have at least X drawings before they can vote, but even then i could draw 1 dot, X times and be set.
What I am thinking of instead is to give the deletion option only to the top most voted people instead. If you look at the most cheered ever, all the people and works on it are dedicated artists, most of them pretty active too. It will be Much harder to abuse that I think. Or the volunteer option, with Matt & Andrew determining who will be moderator.
I'm still trying to compose a list of options for Matt & Andrew, but I've been slacking a bit and writing is not my strong suit (nor is English my native language) so it's taking longer than I'dve liked.
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So it'll be pretty interesting, I'll be a machinist/designer. :3 They clash, but it's fine. Dad wants me to study machines with him and I want to study art. I won't be getting my way unless he gets his, so on the plus side I'll be learning double. >;P I guess I can deal with only minor flips for six years of apprenticship, but I don't like the sound of it. I must demand my time to draw, I'm no natural with those big clunky boxes of wire, oil and drill-bits. So there're the positive and negative sides. :) I hope I haven't put you to sleep with my story.
Andrew Null responded to the copy rite petition here:
http://sketchfu.com/drawing/69044-petition-please-sign
Thank you for all of your cheers and comments, they are very very appreciated. Isn't it fun that we all have our own styles. Sometimes, about my "dynamics" I think I take my pictures too far. That is what I like about yours, they are so subtle. But what would the world be like if we were all alike? Thanks again, dear lady.
i dont know i still have a long way to go with my drawings
i drew that drawing 4 a friend that really likes shino